Julian and Katia Adams: Experiencing the Father’s Goodness
What does it really mean to be adopted into the family of God?
Katia and Julian Adams are the Senior Pastors and Founders of The Table Boston, a new church plant that is launching this year. They are also the Directors of Frequentsee, a prophetic organization that empowers men and women to encounter God.
Julian was born in South Africa, and is an internationally recognized prophet, author, and spiritual advisor, while Katia is an apostolic teacher and author who is originally from Iran. They have two young children.
Can you tell us about your background? How did you start following Jesus? What led you into ministry individually and then together?
Katia: I was born in Iran, to a family with an incredible revival legacy. The modern day church in Iran actually grew out of my grandfather’s house. I was born into this incredible revival atmosphere, where the early church in Iran was growing and gaining momentum. There was a real sense of the presence of God and a real sense of the miraculous.
When I was five years old, God spoke to my parents about church planting amongst Iranian refugees, so we moved out of Iran and to the United Kingdom.
Throughout my childhood and teen years, serving God was my greatest desire. I wouldn’t have been able to define for you what my service would look like, but it was something inside of me. God led me to study medicine, and then practice emergency medicine in a hospital in London. During that time, the Lord spoke to me to transit into vocational ministry.
Julian: I grew up in a Christian family. My parents got saved during the Word of Faith movement in the 1980s, and we would see incredible miracles and signs. I got filled with the Spirit at a young age and became really fascinated with the way God could move in supernatural ways.
From a young age, I was super aware of God’s presence, and began to develop a prophetic ministry with an ability to preach and teach. By the time I was in my mid-20s, I was traveling in a family of churches that emphasized church planting and the local church.
I was the assistant pastor of a local church for eight years. I loved the sense of what God could do in a community and was always aware of the call of God on my life to be part of establishing communities, wherever I am.
It sounds like you both had ministries on your own for several years – how did you come together? How long have you been married?
Katia: We have been married for seven years now – we actually met at a Christian conference twelve years ago. We were both ministering at the conference, and we laugh now because it was a prayer meeting where we actually met. I was praying.
Julian: And I was watching!
Katia: After that, it took years for us to get to know each other. Because of the reality of public ministry, there was a number of years spent trying to figure out how we want to do this and whether we really wanted to take the leap into a relationship.
Over time, we got better in our understanding of how God was bringing us together, and we got married seven years ago. It’s been an absolutely wild adventure. Just before we got married, God started speaking very clearly about us moving to South Africa, and then coming to the States.
“When you understand the full weight of the spirit of adoption, you realize what it means for God to be your Father in every way that He’s a Father to Jesus.” – Julian Adams
Right from the get-go, our relationship has been marked by prophetic direction and radical adventure with God. Nothing’s been normal, but it’s been pretty awesome.
Julian: I love the ways of God, in bringing us together. We are from different races, different countries, and are culturally diverse. Yet we carry the same nations in our hearts individually, and both have an incredible legacy from our parents.
It feels like this sets us up for success because of that legacy, and it’s great to be continuing that in both of our families.
What do you think is the number one hindrance in the church to people encountering God?
Julian: I think it is a lack of understanding of what it means to be adopted into the family of God, and a clear revelation of the goodness of God as a Father.
I think most people in the Church and in the world are still not 100 percent convinced that God’s really good. They think there is a line drawn somewhere, and if they cross that then He’ll punish me – He’ll teach me a really good lesson about behaving properly.
I think when you understand the full weight of the spirit of adoption, you realize what it means for God to be your Father in every way that He’s a Father to Jesus.
Katia: Absolutely. I think we come across a lot of people who imagine that encountering God is reserved for special Christians with super skills. And they think that they almost don’t deserve to encounter God. They’ll say, “Oh, that’s for the prophet. But I’m just poor little me. God doesn’t want to speak to me. That’s for those special Christians over there.”
We want to bring this revelation to every Christian – we don’t get to hear God because we have some superpowers. We get to hear God and encounter Him by the very nature of being his children.
Only a dysfunctional father doesn’t speak to his children. Good fathers speak to all of their children. They don’t say, “Oh, no, I only speak to this one, so if you want to hear from me, only go through this child.” Good fathers, who aren’t abusive, overflow with communication to all of their children.
And so alongside what Julian said about adoption, we see a lot of Christians who are waiting for their “super-special Christian friend” to hear God. Often, after meetings, they are still asking, “Please, will you give me a word from God?” Of course, we honor gifts and recognize that God gave gifts within our midst. Yes.
But we are all able to hear Him. That’s something that He really wants to resonate deeply in every Christian’s heart, because it brings such a sense of freedom and such a sense of security that God himself has chosen to reveal himself to all of us, not just some of us.
How can people practically come alive to their destiny in God?
Julian: We’ve actually produced an e-book called “Seven Keys to Living Big”. One of the big keys is believing that God wants to use us for the impossible – living with a perspective that anything can happen. God wants to trust us in His sovereignty, and to partner with him in the redemption of all things.
And I think when you begin to realize that God has chosen to believe in you, the revelation comes that you can do anything worthy through God. You lose this sense of “Little old me can’t do anything,” and gain the perspective of heaven.
“True spirituality looks like an abundance of joy and abundance of glorious adventure, because that’s what Jesus modeled to us.” – Katia Adams
Humility is not denying greatness. Humility is recognizing where greatness comes from. Much of the church is living in false humility, trying to deny the good things that God spoke over us and the promises that God has made about us. It is time to see things accurately – God is so kind that He chose me. So I can have humility and still believe I can do all things.
Katia: The enemy has invested a lot of time and energy in leading Christians to have misconceptions about what God is like and about what he wants for us. Julian touched on this earlier in terms of the goodness of God. The enemy is heavily invested in making us doubt that God is good.
And that is a huge deal for destiny. What happens in the thought process of a Christian is, when we come across something that is making us come alive and feel a lot of joy, the enemy comes in and says, “This can’t be God. It can’t be God’s will for your life because it’s too good. It’s too joyful.”
For many generations, the enemy has given the Church the misconception that mature spirituality looks something like depression, intensity, and somberness. He tells us that God isn’t interested in joy and wants us to be solemn.
Obviously, that’s a lie. The Scriptures shows us that God Himself is the most joy-filled Being. Jesus was hated by the Pharisees, not because He was solemn and somber, but because He was joyful. He was anointed with the oil of gladness beyond His companions. Wherever He went, there was a party and a sense of celebration.
I think Christians need to come alive to that destiny. We’ve got to do some work to undo the misconceptions we have about what God is like and what His nature is like. He’s not trying to make our lives harder or somehow more miserable.
No, your destiny is something that will bring you joy. That will be the wildest, most glorious adventure. Don’t shut off when you feel like something’s making you come alive. Don’t shut it off because you’re scared that it can’t be God. No, it probably is God. That’s why it’s making you come alive.
We have to work hard to undo the misconception about what true spirituality looks like.
True spirituality doesn’t look sad and intense and serious faced. True spirituality looks like an abundance of joy and abundance of glorious adventure, because that’s what Jesus modeled to us.
Once we are able to unravel those misconceptions about God and His desires for us to be joyful, then we’re able to enter into our destiny much more easily. Suddenly we’ll find out what makes us come alive, and the very thing that brings us an abundance of joy in God is the thing that we were made for.
Come back next week for part two of our conversation with the Adams, as they talk about their upcoming church plant, The Table Boston.